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need to buy an AR4-Automatic Gearbox

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hello, i wrote about 1month ago, that i had some problems with my AR4 Gearbox, on my Renault 25TX, 1989. i found out about a week ago (after i took it to a certified automatic transmission mechanic) that i have to change the whole gearbox :( he said that beside the fact that the discs are burn down, the whol gearbox shell is cracked. so i'll need another gearbox (second hand) in wich he will change the parts and make one of the two working. my biggest problem is, i have searched in Romania, Hungary, Spain .. but didn't finde any single gearbox :(( no one has ever heard of it :( can you please post here where i can get a hold of such a gearbox ? is it possible in Ntherland ? to find such a gearbox (ev. from a broken, crashed car, that still has the gearbox-part intact) ? i would kindly appriciate any help, because without the gearbox i'm left without my tiny little renault :((

thanx alot in advance,
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In the Netherlands are a lot of R25, so I think you have a big change you could find one over here. I can also imagine that there are a lot of parts in france to.

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I have a AR4 gearbox, come's from a 1991 TXI, but 1 disc is broken to.
Unfortanly it's a common problem with these gearboxes.
It can be repaired (read: replaced)
If the body of the gearbox is the same, i don't know.
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are they the same ? i meen will it fit on my '89 TX ? or were there several models released ? mine was a 1,2,D,N,P .. so i think a 3speeder.
Mathijs, i'll buy you a garden of flowers if it fits on my r25 :) no, for real :) i make a few phone calls today, and come backt to you later this afternoon.
do you have an email adress i can write to, to not use the "post" method ?

thanks in advance ,
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I don't think they are the same.
The one i'm talking about is a 4 speed gearbox, so my best guess is that they do not fit.
But than i'm also wondering if your's is an AR4 box.
The 3speed gearbox is by mine knowledge a very solid one
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so u think mine is not an AR4? :( i don't know wtf to think :( mine is a 3 speeder 100% .. what do you meen by "solid" ? the mechanic said that he found a gearbox somwhere in germany, and can bring it to me .. he said that is exactly the one i have.. i dont know..

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i'm pretty sure it is not an AR4
By solid i was meaning that these gearboxes where strong and reliable
Depending of course on the price of the German offer, when it is exactly the same, why not buy it.
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so, i decided to stick with the 3speed one, that my mechanic found in Aachen .. overall with the repair, transportation .. & the Repair Kit, for the gearbox i'm at 1000euros bynow :( hopefully it's worth it & won't brake down in a while again ..

i really like this car, thatswhy i did all this,
thanks for your help again ..

peter


p.s. can u give me some links/files to some handbooks for R25 ? and also i would appriciate some advice concerning the AT ? what's good / what's not?
Thanks in advance

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Greetings from Australia comrades!

As always the question is to get in contact with the person who has what you need?

Place ad on ebay under "want it now" and you might find somebody with one for next to no money.

i wanted some bits for a Fiat tractor and a man replied give me a box of beer and you can take what you like!!



what do you do about the auto going into limp-mode??

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Re: need to buy an AR4-Automatic Gearbox

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@ Cas, first and cheapest is to change oil with the lubricant prescribed by Renault, and NOT anything else because of excessive wear of the discs and bands inside.
So give me the type and specs. plse
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Re: need to buy an AR4-Automatic Gearbox

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Wil',

MJ3 auto box, 86 R25.
I think it is electrical because it comes and goes and is related to to limp mode .
If it didn't go into limp-mode it would be mechanical fault.

Any one been able to tame the computer?

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Cas, I found some info :D but it is in Dutch :oops: anyway a lot of Dutch people left for Australia so you may find one to help and translate. SUCCES
MRTAM.pdf
MRTAM.pdf
MR249R250123568.pdf
MRTA4141.pdf
Je hebt niet voldoende permissies om de bijlagen van dit bericht te bekijken.

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Hi Will'.

i will have a look , it may have a link to to choose English.
but i can translate with "babelfish"

the connections seem to have some influence , just thinking it would be ironic if it was connector joints-wire that was at fault and not the computer?
So many people gone down this path......just needs one of these to make intermitant contact to cause grief.

Computer doesn't really have a lot of work to do.

We are in the bush in Australia and they are very tough and strong cars, surprisingly they deal with the rough dirt roads well.

What do people in Europe do to solve their woes?


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Re: need to buy an AR4-Automatic Gearbox

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Hi Cas, Renault has made cars for different type's of roads, so you can have a 25 made for rough roads/cimate :D
If you look on the internet there is a possibility that you can find the details in English. Search for "Dialogys" that is the Renault doc.
Corroded connections(there are pictures in my pdf) are a major problem with Renaults over the years, so start with that, is not expensive but time consuming, and might solve your problem.
For now have a nice weekend.
WillemS

In Europe many people scrap their cars, if they find those problems except 25 addicted people they jion and help their friends in forums like this or; http://www.renault25club.nl/ or http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/

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